Why No Italian Country Music Singers

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

I've mentioned this before, but I was reminded recently listening to
Jimmy Dean's "Live" LP, when he prefaced his version of "That's Life"
with something about it being a hit for an "italian fella" (Frank
Sinatra) recently.

Anyhow, why are there no/very few Italian Country music singers ?

Enquiring minds want to know. :)

[Tom Kan PA]

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)
I've mentioned this before, but I was reminded recently listening to
Jimmy Dean's "Live" LP, when he prefaced his version of "That's Life"
with something about it being a hit for an "italian fella" (Frank
Sinatra) recently.
Anyhow, why are there no/very few Italian Country music singers ?
Enquiring minds want to know. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McAnthony

[Volunteer Zeke]

Apparently u nvr hrd Mr Crocetti sing
Detroit City or other songs

[Tom Kan PA]

Post by Volunteer Zeke
Apparently u nvr hrd Mr Crocetti sing
Detroit City or other songs

Oh yes I have. But first I gonna go to the couch.

[Volunteer Zeke]

Re: Why No Italian Country Music Singers

***@aol.com (Tom=A0Kan=A0PA)
On Aug 5, 11:58 am, ***@webtv.net (Volunteer Zeke) wrote:
Apparently u nvr hrd Mr Crocetti sing
Detroit City or other songs
Oh yes I have. But first I gonna go to the couch.
COME ON IT WASNT THAT BAD
I JUST FINISHED LISTENIN TO TH OTHER HALF (GRIN) JERRY LEWIS DO
DETROIT CITY AND HE KILLED IT


Two very elderly friends, Arlie and Zeke, met in the park every day to
feed the pigeons, watch the squirrels and discuss world problems. One
day Zeke didn't show up. Arlie didn't think much about it, figured maybe
he had a cold or some such.
But after Zeke hadn't shown up for a week or so Arlie really got
worried. However, the only time they ever got together anymore (they
used to play a lot of golf together) was at the park, and Arlie couldn't
remember where Zeke lived so he was unable to find out what had happened
to him. A month passed and Arlie figured old Zeke had gone to his
heavenly reward, but one day Arlie approached the park and, lo and
behold, there sat Zeke!
Arlie was very excited and happy to see him and told him so! Then he
said, "For crying out loud Zeke, what happened to you???" Zeke replied,
"I have been in jail."
"Jail???," cried Arlie!! "What in the world for???" "Well," Zeke said,
"You know Sue, that cute little blonde waitress at the coffee shop where
we sometimes get coffee?" Yeah" said Arlie, "I remember her. What about
her?" "Well one day last month she got mad at me and to get even, she
charged me with rape. I was so proud of what everyone would think an old
fart like me could still do it, that when I got into court, I pled
'Guilty'. The judge then took a good look at me and gave me 30 days for
perjury."
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)
I've mentioned this before, but I was reminded recently listening to
Jimmy Dean's "Live" LP, <

Speaking of Jimmy Dean, he had his moments obviously, but nobody
really takes him too seriously when talking about Country music
singers. I believe that's a mistake.

He's a little short on the longevity department, and probably has as
much "ham" as all his sausages combined, but don't overlook his deep
catalog stuff.

I hate to keep repeating that it still comes down to the song, but ol'
Dean had a pretty good ear for one . I was just listening to one of
his LPs from I believe 1957, and he recorded a couple of songs by the
virtually unknown Roger Miller, who we just had a recent inquiry
about. I'm gonna guess these might have been the first recordings of
Miller's songs, but at the very least they are certainly among the
earliest.

The other thing I'd like to mention, is that we've taken issue often
enough with the boatload of crap that passed for duet LPs, from
everyone from George Jones and whoever he happened to be singing with
and of course to Conway Twitty & Loretta Lynn , the King and Queen of
duet crapola themselves. :)

A little known gem that might be worth seeking out in my not so humble
opinion, is the Jimmy Dean / Dottie West duet LP. One of the finest
duet LPs ever released. Unlike most other duet LPs, like Jimmy's
sausages :) the Dean/West collaboration contains "all pork and no
filler' . :) Sorry, I couldn't resist. :)

Give it a listen, you'll be in " hog heaven" !

[d***@webtv.net]

Speaking of Jimmie Dean, he's living proof that a big grin, a folksy
manner, and one hit (Big John) is all that's needed to get ahead! More
power to him! He's come a long way from the Oxon Hill, Md. firehouse
where he used to play on Saturday nights with his local band the Texas
Wildcats, which included Smitty Irvin, Buck Ryan, Billy Grammer, a base
player whose name I've forgotten, Mary Click, Dale Turner, and
occasional guest appearances by Patsy Cline before she made the big
time. -- Dick

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

Post by d***@webtv.net
Speaking of Jimmie Dean, he's living proof that a big grin, a folksy
manner, and one hit (Big John) is all that's needed to get ahead! <

Or in Porter Wagoner's case the hit is obviously optional. :)

In fact, Garth Brooks pretty much used that formula to sell 115
million LPs ! And that's BEFORE his just announced "comeback" . The
problem for Garth is that TV is a "hot" medium, and people can see
right through you. Jimmy Dean and Porter are sincere and love/loved
what they were doing and it showed. Garth is just as insincere as his
smile, and sadly for him the people can't be fooled on a visual
medium. He's toast, until he goes back to his wife.

Remember Trisha, you read it here
FIRST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reason # 6,721,945 why I'm "THE KING" ! :) LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[D. Lawrence]

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)

Post by d***@webtv.net
Speaking of Jimmie Dean, he's living proof that a big grin, a folksy
manner, and one hit (Big John) is all that's needed to get ahead! <

Or in Porter Wagoner's case the hit is obviously optional. :)
In fact, Garth Brooks pretty much used that formula to sell 115
million LPs ! And that's BEFORE his just announced "comeback" . The
problem for Garth is that TV is a "hot" medium, and people can see
right through you. Jimmy Dean and Porter are sincere and love/loved
what they were doing and it showed. Garth is just as insincere as his
smile, and sadly for him the people can't be fooled on a visual
medium. He's toast, until he goes back to his wife.
Remember Trisha, you read it here
FIRST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It seems like a strange thread to use to take a shot at Garth. I've never
been a big fan of his, but give the man his due. He's charted 70 tunes and
is the biggest selling artist of the 20th century. Live performances are
certainly "visual" and nobody ever said that Garth didn't give people their
money's worth in a live show. He could sell out the largest of venues and
put a lot more energy into those shows than most artists do.

[Tom Kan PA]

On Aug 6, 8:48 pm, "D. Lawrence" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
. Live performances are

Post by D. Lawrence
certainly "visual" and nobody ever said that Garth didn't give people their
money's worth in a live show. He could sell out the largest of venues and
put a lot more energy into those shows than most artists do.

Ten years ago today..............One of the later peaks in Brooks'
fame came on August 7, 1997, when he gave a free concert in New York
City's Central Park, drawing hundreds of thousands of people in a city
that many would say is far removed from the country music world.
Estimates of the actual crowd size varied considerably, from 250,000
to 750,000 or even higher, primarily because many people were enjoying
the show from outside the full-to-capacity venue. Brooks himself has
estimated the crowd at close to 900,000. An additional 14.6 million
viewers watched the performance live on HBO. Billy Joel and Don McLean
made guest appearances.

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

Post by Tom Kan PA
August 7, 1997, when he gave a free concert in New York
City's Central Park, drawing hundreds of thousands of people in a city
that many would say is far removed from the country music world.<

Forty years before that they gave a concert that you had to pay to
attend in a cow pasture in New York that attracted hundreds of
MILLIONS . :) What's your point ?

Country music fans are FANATICS which is why Garth's homosexual lover
Kenny Chesney outdraws just about every single music act in the
history of mankind, and NOBODY even Chesney herself can name one of
her songs ?

Anyhow it's pretty sad to watch Garth and Trisha try to headline" a
futile "green" concert being drummed up by Al Gore. If this doesn't
illustrate how far they've all fallen, including the bloated Al Gore,
I don't know what does ! Judging by his weight, I'm betting Gore's son
isn't the ONLY one with a substance abuse problem in that
householod !


Save the whales ! ( I'm not talking about Trisha. ) :)
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ruth]

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)

Post by Tom Kan PA
August 7, 1997, when he gave a free concert in New York
City's Central Park, drawing hundreds of thousands of people in a city
that many would say is far removed from the country music world.<

Forty years before that they gave a concert that you had to pay to
attend in a cow pasture in New York that attracted hundreds of
MILLIONS . :) What's your point ?
Country music fans are FANATICS which is why Garth's homosexual lover
Kenny Chesney outdraws just about every single music act in the
history of mankind, and NOBODY even Chesney herself can name one of
her songs ?
Anyhow it's pretty sad to watch Garth and Trisha try to headline" a
futile "green" concert being drummed up by Al Gore. If this doesn't
illustrate how far they've all fallen, including the bloated Al Gore,
I don't know what does ! Judging by his weight, I'm betting Gore's son
isn't the ONLY one with a substance abuse problem in that
householod !
Save the whales ! ( I'm not talking about Trisha. ) :)
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually, by the time Woodstock got going good people were just coming
in and no one was asking about tickets anymore......I guess that was
the advantage of the rain and all the mud. ruth

[Coop]

And then years later, the CMAs did their show in NYC. That worked
well don't ya think.

Coop

[D. Lawrence]

Post by D. Lawrence
. Live performances are

Post by D. Lawrence
certainly "visual" and nobody ever said that Garth didn't give people their
money's worth in a live show. He could sell out the largest of venues and
put a lot more energy into those shows than most artists do.

Ten years ago today..............One of the later peaks in Brooks'
fame came on August 7, 1997, when he gave a free concert in New York
City's Central Park, drawing hundreds of thousands of people in a city
that many would say is far removed from the country music world.
Estimates of the actual crowd size varied considerably, from 250,000
to 750,000 or even higher, primarily because many people were enjoying
the show from outside the full-to-capacity venue. Brooks himself has
estimated the crowd at close to 900,000. An additional 14.6 million
viewers watched the performance live on HBO. Billy Joel and Don McLean
made guest appearances.

_________________________
Tom,

That's not an anniverary I would have noted. If commercial success is the
objective, Garth Brooks did a whale of a job. I just have a problem when an
artist winds up being essentially a caricature of himself, i.e., when Garth
Brooks became just "Garth" and his signature song became "Friends in Low
Places." Maybe it's just my basically low key nature, but I thought the
trapeze stage routines were a little over the top. But, again, he provided
a high energy show and gave the folks what they wanted.

[Tom Kan PA]

On Aug 7, 8:26 pm, "D. Lawrence" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
I just have a problem when an

Post by D. Lawrence
artist winds up being essentially a caricature of himself, i.e., when Garth
Brooks became just "Garth" and his signature song became "Friends in Low
Places."

And what do you think about just "Waylon"? And "Hank" and "Hank, Jr."?

[Riff Raff]

Re: Why No Italian Country Music Singers

Group: alt.music.country.classic Date: Wed, Aug 8, 2007, 5:25am (EDT-3)
From: ***@aol.com (Tom=A0Kan=A0PA)
On Aug 7, 8:26 pm, "D. Lawrence" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
=A0=A0I just have a problem when an
artist winds up being essentially a caricature of himself, i.e., when
Garth Brooks became just "Garth" and his signature song became "Friends
in Low Places."
And what do you think about just "Waylon"? And "Hank" and "Hank, Jr."?

AND PORTER N LORETTA N DOLLY
N ESKER -----GRIN

[d***@webtv.net]

And "Willie"?

[D. Lawrence]

Post by d***@webtv.net
And "Willie"?

_____________
Unfortunately, to many people Willie became better known for headbands and
smoking dope than for his considerable contributions to country music.

[d***@webtv.net]

Speaking of Willie, I just watched the last part (missed the beginning)
of a re-broadcast of PBS' coverage of a "Last Of The Breed" concert in
Rosemont (?) Il.

It seemed to me that, unlike Merle and Ray, Willie hasn't aged over the
years and still has the same energy and stage presence he always had.
Must be the weed that's keeping him ageless! -- Dick

[D. Lawrence]

Post by d***@webtv.net
Speaking of Willie, I just watched the last part (missed the beginning)
of a re-broadcast of PBS' coverage of a "Last Of The Breed" concert in
Rosemont (?) Il.
It seemed to me that, unlike Merle and Ray, Willie hasn't aged over the
years and still has the same energy and stage presence he always had.
Must be the weed that's keeping him ageless! -- Dick

_________________________________
Must be. I watched a PBS show that Willie did so I'm guessing it was the
same one. He was terrific. Totally comfortable and in control and
appearing to be having a whale of a good time. That's what it's about.

[Riff Raff]

http://www.edzed.com/public/audio/wav/106miles.wav

http://www.edzed.com/public/audio/wav/bothkind.wav

They played Rawhide n Stand by Your Man

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

Post by d***@webtv.net
Speaking of Willie, I just watched the last part (missed the beginning)
of a re-broadcast of PBS' coverage of a "Last Of The Breed" concert in
Rosemont (?) Il.
It seemed to me that, unlike Merle and Ray, Willie hasn't aged over the
years and still has the same energy and stage presence he always had.
Must be the weed that's keeping him ageless! -- Dick<

Or you out of it, one or the other. :) Energy ??????? What the hell
are YOU smokin' son ??? Willie's admittedly been in a marijauna haze
for 40 years. He's admittedly into the music, but there ain't much
energy there, Bunky . Stick to something you have some knowledge
about, if anything. :)

As for the ageless thing, check out his grey head of hair , sunken
cheeks, and skinny frame. That ain't youthful vitality you're lookin'
at. :)

And while you're at it, check out his "Live" duet with Carole King on
his recent "Live" CD ! :) LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buy a vowel honey, you have no clue !

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

Post by D. Lawrence
Unfortunately, to many people Willie became better known for headbands and
smoking dope

Nonsense. :)

Willie Nelson has almost ONLY been popular with the dope-smoking rock
refugees, not with the "classic" country audience this NG caters to .
Stardust was his biggest selling album by FAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!! End of
story.

Post by D. Lawrence
than for his considerable contributions to country music.<

Nonsense. :)

Ain't nothing much "considerable" about HIS contributions to Country
"MUSIC" . What he did do was thanks to his rebellious image and pot
smoking, he brought a ton of people to the genre who might never have
listened to it. Like Chet Atkins, I don't think he did it any
favors. :) Neither one created many Country Music fans, what they did
was create a lot of elitists who've been trying to convince themselves
how musically enlightened they all are, while they've created the
biggest pile of crap they call "Americana" since the Disco fiasco !

When ANYONE, maybe you didn't hear me I said ANYONE, maybe you didn't
hear me I said ANYONE evolves from that pile of manure, to be anything
other than a wanna-be, let me know. Somebody needs to stick a fork in
that genre and all the old hippies yesterday. :)
They've had about a generation to find the next savior, :) and
somebody needs to tell them the Beatles aren't coming back. :)

[D. Lawrence]

Post by D. Lawrence
I just have a problem when an

Post by D. Lawrence
artist winds up being essentially a caricature of himself, i.e., when Garth
Brooks became just "Garth" and his signature song became "Friends in Low
Places."

And what do you think about just "Waylon"? And "Hank" and "Hank, Jr."?

__________________________________________
And we could add to the list with Reba, Loretta, Tammy, Lefty, Conway
....but that still misses the point. The point was that Garth "progressed"
to the point that his signature song was a novelty tune. I've been giving
the man a ton of credit here for selling a lot of records and putting on
shows that a lot of people obviously enjoyed (trapeze and all). I just lost
interest when he became more celebrity than country singer.

[Riff Raff]

records and putting on shows that a lot of people obviously enjoyed
(trapeze and all). I just lost interest when he became more celebrity
than country singer.


TH Geezinslaws had a song
cant rem th name

said something about Hank didnt have to
swing on stage

I think they was talkin about Garth

They didnt call him by name since
he does have Friends in Low Places

grin

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

Post by D. Lawrence
....but that still misses the point. The point was that Garth "progressed"
to the point that his signature song was a novelty tune.<

Not at all, the point is that you don't know anything about Country
music, which is why you continually refer to "Friends In Low Places"
as a novelty tune.

Post by D. Lawrence
I just lost interest when he became more celebrity than country singer.<

If ONLY you could tell the difference. :) LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tom Kan PA]

On Aug 7, 8:26 pm, "D. Lawrence" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
I just have a problem when an

Post by D. Lawrence
artist winds up being essentially a caricature of himself, i.e., when Garth
Brooks became just "Garth" and his signature song became "Friends in Low
Places." Maybe it's just my basically low key nature, but I thought the
trapeze stage routines were a little over the top. But, again, he provided
a high energy show and gave the folks what they wanted.

And what's wrong with Garth's, I'm sorry you did say you didn't care
for artists who are known by their first name, Troyal Garth Brooks'
"Friends In Low Places?"
It's a typical broken romance beer drinking country song.

[D. Lawrence]

Post by Tom Kan PA
And what's wrong with Garth's, I'm sorry you did say you didn't care
for artists who are known by their first name, ...

_______________________
Nope, I didn't say that at all. I don't dislike Garth (or Garth Brooks);
I'm totally ambivalent about him. My point was that I lost interest when he
became more pop star than country singer and his shows became more
"happenings" (remember that term?) than country music concerts. But it does
strike me as strange that a fairly innocuous comment about first-name-only
generates more response than another post referring to Garth as a homo. And
all this in a thread that started with Italian country singers.

[Tom Kan PA]

On Aug 9, 6:45 pm, "D. Lawrence" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
_______________________

Post by D. Lawrence
Nope, I didn't say that at all. I don't dislike Garth (or Garth Brooks);
I'm totally ambivalent about him. My point was that I lost interest when he
became more pop star than country singer and his shows became more
"happenings" (remember that term?) than country music concerts. But it does
strike me as strange that a fairly innocuous comment about first-name-only
generates more response than another post referring to Garth as a homo. And
all this in a thread that started with Italian country singers.

OK, I agree with you on Garth becoming more pop than country. But you
cited "Friends in Low Places" which is even close to being a pop song.
Like I said, it was a typical COUNTRY broken romance/drinking beer
song. And so what if someone asked, "Did you hear Garth's new song?"
and you knew who they were referring to.
Pop.........Prince or Garth. Country......Waylon or Garth. You lost
your point, at least in my opinion, when you brought up first name
basis and his signature song.
But I agree with you now, he tried to go pop, and I haven't heard
anything from or about him since.

[Riff Raff]

hey i like Friends in low Places
http://www.terrisfp.com/flash2/buddies.html

[Tom Kan PA]

Post by D. Lawrence
Nope, I didn't say that at all. I don't dislike Garth (or Garth Brooks);
I'm totally ambivalent about him. My point was that I lost interest when he
became more pop star than country singer and his shows became more
"happenings" (remember that term?) than country music concerts.

I agree, he never was a favorite of mine and the more pop he became
the more I didn't care for him. But, being known by his first name,
doesn't make him more pop than country. And you called "Friends in Low
Places" a novelty song. No it wasn't, like I said it was typical
country broken romance/beer drinking song. And I did like Waylon,
Willie and the Hanks. The second Hank not being Jr, it's Snow. I was
listening to country music in the 40's. And I do consider some of
today's country artists as being country artists. George Strait,
Dwight Yokam, Alan Jackson to name three. In my opinion, one of the
all time best country songs was "Murder on Music Row."

[D. Lawrence]

Post by Tom Kan PA

Post by D. Lawrence
Nope, I didn't say that at all. I don't dislike Garth (or Garth Brooks);
I'm totally ambivalent about him. My point was that I lost interest when he
became more pop star than country singer and his shows became more
"happenings" (remember that term?) than country music concerts.

I agree, he never was a favorite of mine and the more pop he became
the more I didn't care for him. But, being known by his first name,
doesn't make him more pop than country. And you called "Friends in Low
Places" a novelty song. No it wasn't, like I said it was typical
country broken romance/beer drinking song. And I did like Waylon,
Willie and the Hanks. The second Hank not being Jr, it's Snow. I was
listening to country music in the 40's. And I do consider some of
today's country artists as being country artists. George Strait,
Dwight Yokam, Alan Jackson to name three. In my opinion, one of the
all time best country songs was "Murder on Music Row."

________________________________________
Mr. Thompson might be hurt by his exclusion from your list of "Hanks." No
argument with George, Dwight and Alan (hey, we're all on a first name basis
here); I've seen them all in concert and they're all on my iPod. I would
include Vince Gill, too. I don't listen to radio much but I've heard a few
things by Brad Paisley that weren't bad. But I do want to draw the line
before we get to Tim McGraw and Toby Keith.

[Tom Kan PA]

Post by D. Lawrence
________________________________________
Mr. Thompson might be hurt by his exclusion from your list of "Hanks."

++++++++++++++++++
YOU'RE RIGHT! How could I miss Hank Thompson, one of my favorites.


No argument with George, Dwight and Alan (hey, we're all on a first
name basis

Post by D. Lawrence
here); I've seen them all in concert and they're all on my iPod. I would
include Vince Gill, too. I don't listen to radio much but I've heard a few
things by Brad Paisley that weren't bad.

++++++++++++++++++
"Me Neither" by Brad Paisley. Reminds me of "I was looking back to
see" by Goldie Hill and Justin Tubb, a hit over 50 years ago.

Sit down when you read the following! Billy Ray Cyrus's "Some Gave
All" is a great song. He sounds a lot like Waylon.

[D. Lawrence]

Post by Tom Kan PA

Post by D. Lawrence
________________________________________
Mr. Thompson might be hurt by his exclusion from your list of "Hanks."

++++++++++++++++++
YOU'RE RIGHT! How could I miss Hank Thompson, one of my favorites.
No argument with George, Dwight and Alan (hey, we're all on a first
name basis

Post by D. Lawrence
here); I've seen them all in concert and they're all on my iPod. I would
include Vince Gill, too. I don't listen to radio much but I've heard a few
things by Brad Paisley that weren't bad.

++++++++++++++++++
"Me Neither" by Brad Paisley. Reminds me of "I was looking back to
see" by Goldie Hill and Justin Tubb, a hit over 50 years ago.
Sit down when you read the following! Billy Ray Cyrus's "Some Gave
All" is a great song. He sounds a lot like Waylon.

____________________________
I will take your word for that. I could never get past Achy Breaky Heart
and the mullet haircut.

[d***@webtv.net]

If we are listing "Hanks", let's add Hank Penny and Hank Locklin!! And
then we can argue about who should be 3, 4, 5, etc, after Williams Sr.
and Snow! -- Dick

[Tom Kan PA]

On Aug 11, 8:41 pm, ***@webtv.net wrote:
And then we can argue about who should be 3, 4, 5, etc, after
Williams Sr.
and Snow! -- Dick

#3 gotta be Hank Thompson.

Don't forget Hank Wilson.

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

But I do want to draw the line before we get to Tim McGraw and Toby Keith.<

Again, that's because you don't understand music.

Tim McGraw is the big dog in town, and naturally gets some of the
first picks at any new songs and it shows. A lot of his stuff is
formulatic crap, but still some of it is pretty good.

On the other hand, people like Dwight Yoakam SUCK ! Let's not beat
around the bush. End of story. His first three LPs weren't bad, but
since then he's spent 20 years as the world's most successful cover
band. :) I like a lot of his "covers", but as I said before, he
couldn't write a hit song if you locked him in a closet with Harlan
Howard for life ! Tim McGraw throws away better songs than Dwight
Yoakam releases ! :) LOL !!!!!!

And Toby Keith ? PUH - LEZE !!!! He just happens to be a pretty fair
songwriter in his own right, and will probably go down in history as
one of the best of his generation. He's written some of the BEST songs
of the last decade, and is admired and befriended by people like
Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard, who know a little bit about
songwriting and country music.

As I've said a million times, it's women like you who have destroyed
Country music . That's the demographic, so don't blame me. I'm not
making this stuff up ! :) When Lawrence Welk went off the air,
apparently all the old biddies had nothing to listen to ! In thirty
years it's gone from the outlaw movement to the mother-in-law
movement ! Might as well call it the bowel movement ! :)

[Tom Kan PA]

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)
As I've said a million times, it's women like you who have destroyed
Country music .

And what about men? like you who probably bought every single/album
that Norma Jean recorded??

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

Post by Tom Kan PA

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)
As I've said a million times, it's women like you who have destroyed
Country music .

And what about men? like you who probably bought every single/album
that Norma Jean recorded??<

And what's your point besides the obvious one on your head ? I have a
lot of Norma Jean's recordings, BUT I don't consider her or almost any
other woman you'd care to mention "essential" . Lane Gray used to post
here, and he thought she and Jean Shepard were two of the best, but I
would have to strongly disagree, and I did on many many occasions.
Selective memory ?

Anyhow, first of all IDGIT, we've been down this road a million times,
and if you think Dwight Hoakam is anything but Kenny Chesney's gay
lover, you're clueless. :) It's a FACT that Garth Brooks created the
mother-in-law movement, in that almost every single male vocalist
since, has to basically be gay, or so effemininate, that if her
daughter was late getting ready, ol' granny would take him to a church
social. I mean it's enough to make you want to puke.

Randy Travis, Garth Brooks :) , Dwight Yoakam, Keith Urban, Kenny
Chesney, Brad Paisley, Josh Turner and on and on and on are about a
combined 1,000 years old without a ring or a child between them ! How
"normal" is that ? Talk about who wears the pants ! Even the old
timers like George Strait, Alan Jackson , and Tim McGraw basically
have to raise their hands if they want to speak ! I'd almost dare you
to produce an article about any of them, without a couple of
paragraphs devoted to their wives !!!!!!!!! PUH-LEEEEZE !!!!!!!!!

Elizabeth Cook was right on when she sang "it takes balls to be a
woman" , because the men certainly don't have them !

God bless Toby Keith and Merle Haggard !!!!!!!!!!

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

If commercial success is the objective, Garth Brooks did a whale of a job.<

It's NOT . This is a classic country NG.

I just have a problem<

You're telling us.

when an artist winds up being essentially a caricature of himself, i.e., when Garth
Brooks became just "Garth" <

Please. Get over yourself. When EXACTLY did THAT happen ?

and his signature song became "Friends in Low Places." <

Again. PLEASE ! When EXACTLY did THAT happen ?

[[e-mail] (Noah Tall)]

Post by d***@webtv.net
Speaking of Jimmie Dean, he's living proof that a big grin, a folksy

Post by d***@webtv.net
manner, and one hit (Big John) is all that's needed to get ahead! <

In fact, Garth Brooks pretty much used that formula to sell 115 million LPs ! <
It seems like a strange thread to use to take a shot at Garth.<

STRANGE ????? Read the posts, honey . Are you saying reading
comprehension was not one of your best subjects ? ADD ? Too much time
doing your nails ? Spending all day checking your cell phone for soap
opera updates ? ALL OF THE ABOVE ?

I've never been a big fan of his, <

I don;t know, I'm betting you're flirting with 200 lbs, and that's a
BIG woman by any definition. :)

He's charted 70 tunes and is the biggest selling artist of the 20th century. <

So was Michael Jackson !!!!! What's your point ? They've both lost
99% of their fan base, and Garth hasn't even admitted to any sex
crimes, unless you're gonna try to make the point that he's having sex
with a farm animal ! :) ! :)

At least Michael Jackson has an excuse for losing all his fans ! (At
least the ones over 12) :) LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO THE MATH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[D. Lawrence]

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)

Post by d***@webtv.net
Speaking of Jimmie Dean, he's living proof that a big grin, a folksy

Post by d***@webtv.net
manner, and one hit (Big John) is all that's needed to get ahead! <

In fact, Garth Brooks pretty much used that formula to sell 115 million LPs ! <
It seems like a strange thread to use to take a shot at Garth.<

STRANGE ????? Read the posts, honey . Are you saying reading
comprehension was not one of your best subjects ? ADD ? Too much time
doing your nails ? Spending all day checking your cell phone for soap
opera updates ? ALL OF THE ABOVE ?

I've never been a big fan of his, <

I don;t know, I'm betting you're flirting with 200 lbs, and that's a
BIG woman by any definition. :)

He's charted 70 tunes and is the biggest selling artist of the 20th century. <

So was Michael Jackson !!!!! What's your point ? They've both lost
99% of their fan base, and Garth hasn't even admitted to any sex
crimes, unless you're gonna try to make the point that he's having sex
with a farm animal ! :) ! :)
At least Michael Jackson has an excuse for losing all his fans ! (At
least the ones over 12) :) LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DO THE MATH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

_____________________________

Nonsense response. Don't try to engage in a battle of wits when you so
obviously have no weapons.

[B.A. Ware]

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)
Anyhow, why are there no/very few Italian Country music singers ?
Enquiring minds want to know. :)

I don't know why that is, but here's one:

George McAnthony

http://www.mcanthony.it/

[Scott]

KingCountryI wrote...

Post by ***@aol.com (Noah Tall)
I've mentioned this before, but I was reminded recently listening to
Jimmy Dean's "Live" LP, when he prefaced his version of "That's Life"
with something about it being a hit for an "italian fella" (Frank
Sinatra) recently.
Anyhow, why are there no/very few Italian Country music singers ?
Enquiring minds want to know. :)

Because they would suck!! Can you say Jo Dee Messina??

Most people that appreciate Country music have western European heritage.

[Paige Turner]

Post by Scott
Most people that appreciate Country music have western European heritage.

Aw, go ahead and say it -- they're WHITE!

[Scott]

Paige Turner wrote...

Post by Paige Turner

Post by Scott
Most people that appreciate Country music have western European heritage.

Aw, go ahead and say it -- they're WHITE!

Actually I did mean western European. I grew up in a Polish
neighborhood--had to visit my hillbilly friends in another neighborhood to
hear any country music. But you have a point. Now the neighborhood is
black, and country music still isn't found there!